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RE : Re: prbms with 3DSlicer crashing

chir.set@free.fr
You must use the fglrx driver : ati.amd.com
Your graphics card should have at least 1GB video RAM.

lsmod |grep fglrx
lsmod |grep radeon

to know what driver is in use.


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Re: RE : Re: prbms with 3DSlicer crashing

Hoppe, Anna L
Hi,

I tried typing both 'lsmod |grep fglrx' and 'lsmod |grep radeon' into my terminal and nothing happened. However, when I typed 'lspci -v' I got the following (I highlighted what I think is my driver in red, but I'm not sure.... Am I using the correct driver???) :

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DMI (rev 11)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 304b
        Flags: fast devsel
        Capabilities: <access denied>

00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 11) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: 00001000-00001fff
        Memory behind bridge: f0100000-f01fffff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000e0000000-00000000efffffff
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor System Management Registers (rev 11)
        Subsystem: Device 003c:004b
        Flags: fast devsel
        Capabilities: <access denied>

00:08.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor Semaphore and Scratchpad Registers (rev 11)
        Subsystem: Device 003c:004b
        Flags: fast devsel
        Capabilities: <access denied>

00:08.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor System Control and Status Registers (rev 11)
        Subsystem: Device 003c:004b
        Flags: fast devsel
        Capabilities: <access denied>

00:08.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor Miscellaneous Registers (rev 11)
        Subsystem: Device 003c:004b
        Flags: fast devsel

00:10.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link (rev 11)
        Subsystem: Device 003c:004b
        Flags: fast devsel

00:10.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Routing and Protocol Registers (rev 11)
        Subsystem: Device 003c:004b
        Flags: fast devsel

00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 304b
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5
        Memory at f002a000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16]
        Capabilities: <access denied>

00:16.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset KT Controller (rev 06) (prog-if 02 [16550])
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 304b
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
        I/O ports at 2180 [size=8]
        Memory at f0024000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: serial

00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82578DM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 05)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 304b
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 35
        Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
        Memory at f0025000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        I/O ports at 2100 [size=32]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: e1000e

00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 304b
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20
        Memory at f0027000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 304b
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 36
        Memory at f0020000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 05) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=18, subordinate=18, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: 00003000-00003fff
        Memory behind bridge: f8000000-f81fffff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000f8200000-00000000f83fffff
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev 05) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=24, subordinate=24, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: 00004000-00004fff
        Memory behind bridge: f8400000-f85fffff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000f8600000-00000000f87fffff
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1c.6 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 7 (rev 05) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=30, subordinate=30, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: 00005000-00005fff
        Memory behind bridge: f8800000-f89fffff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000f8a00000-00000000f8bfffff
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 304b
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20
        Memory at f0028000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev a5) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=0d, subordinate=0d, sec-latency=32
        Capabilities: <access denied>

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 05)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 304b
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
        Capabilities: <access denied>

00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 304b
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 33
        I/O ports at 2188 [size=8]
        I/O ports at 21a0 [size=4]
        I/O ports at 2190 [size=8]
        I/O ports at 21a4 [size=4]
        I/O ports at 2120 [size=32]
        Memory at f0026000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ahci

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 1002
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 34
        Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        Memory at f0100000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
        I/O ports at 1100 [size=256]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at f0120000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: radeon

01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV710/730
        Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc RV710/730
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 37
        Memory at f0110000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel

Thanks so much for the help,
Anna


From: Chir.set [[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 4:32 PM
To: Hoppe, Anna L; [hidden email]
Subject: RE : Re: [slicer-users] prbms with 3DSlicer crashing

You must use the fglrx driver : ati.amd.com
Your graphics card should have at least 1GB video RAM.

lsmod |grep fglrx
lsmod |grep radeon

to know what driver is in use.


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Re: RE : Re: prbms with 3DSlicer crashing

chir.set@free.fr
Le lundi 14 mai 2012 14:22:39 Hoppe, Anna L a écrit :
> Radeon HD 4650

Your card is using the the free radeon driver, you won't necessarily have the
best performance from the GPU.

lsmod is a root only command.

To install the fglrx driver, you must download it from ati.amd.com and do it
as root user.

But it might be better to change your graphics card for a Radeon 6xxx or 7xxx
series with maximum video RAM. You won't be able to do this if you are working
with a laptop.

I personally had to change my graphics card for a Radeon XFX 6800 series with
2GB video mem, and maximized the PC RAM to have optimal performance with
Slicer on this box.

You must also note that besides display, your PC should seat a powerful CPU  
to handle the background heavy calculation.

It would be wiser to buy a new PC if Slicer is important for your work.

Cheers !



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Re: RE : Re: prbms with 3DSlicer crashing

Hoppe, Anna L
Hi,

Thanks for all the help so far! I will look into getting either a Radeon 6xxx or 7xxx series graphics card (I'm not using laptop, I'm using a 64-bit linux machine with 8 GB RAM).

I was just wondering what you meant by  "besides display, your PC should seat a powerful CPU to handle the background heavy calculation"? How powerful and how do I check to see whether my linux machine is powerful enough? It is 2 years old, & if possible, I would like to avoid getting a new computer (I am hoping that my machine is "powerful" enough to handle 3DSlicer & only needs a better graphics card)

Thanks for all the help,
Anna
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Le lundi 14 mai 2012 14:22:39 Hoppe, Anna L a écrit :
> Radeon HD 4650

Your card is using the the free radeon driver, you won't necessarily have the
best performance from the GPU.

lsmod is a root only command.

To install the fglrx driver, you must download it from ati.amd.com and do it
as root user.

But it might be better to change your graphics card for a Radeon 6xxx or 7xxx
series with maximum video RAM. You won't be able to do this if you are working
with a laptop.

I personally had to change my graphics card for a Radeon XFX 6800 series with
2GB video mem, and maximized the PC RAM to have optimal performance with
Slicer on this box.

You must also note that besides display, your PC should seat a powerful CPU
to handle the background heavy calculation.

It would be wiser to buy a new PC if Slicer is important for your work.

Cheers !



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Re: RE : Re: prbms with 3DSlicer crashing

chir.set@free.fr
At work, I use Slicer on a 2 core Athlon II XP CPU at 2.7 GHz and on a 6 core
Athlon Phenom II CPU at 3.3 GHz. The performance gain is quite big.

Check your CPU characteristics. Tasks like segmentation can be CPU intensive.
CPU power will never be enough, though we are all budget limited in some way.


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Re: RE : Re: prbms with 3DSlicer crashing

Julien Finet
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Anna,

Did you build Slicer 4.1 yourself or did you download/install it ?
If you built it yourself, then try to download it : http://download.slicer.org

Julien.

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Hoppe, Anna L <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for all the help so far! I will look into getting either a Radeon 6xxx or 7xxx series graphics card (I'm not using laptop, I'm using a 64-bit linux machine with 8 GB RAM).

I was just wondering what you meant by  "besides display, your PC should seat a powerful CPU to handle the background heavy calculation"? How powerful and how do I check to see whether my linux machine is powerful enough? It is 2 years old, & if possible, I would like to avoid getting a new computer (I am hoping that my machine is "powerful" enough to handle 3DSlicer & only needs a better graphics card)

Thanks for all the help,
Anna
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Le lundi 14 mai 2012 14:22:39 Hoppe, Anna L a écrit :
> Radeon HD 4650

Your card is using the the free radeon driver, you won't necessarily have the
best performance from the GPU.

lsmod is a root only command.

To install the fglrx driver, you must download it from ati.amd.com and do it
as root user.

But it might be better to change your graphics card for a Radeon 6xxx or 7xxx
series with maximum video RAM. You won't be able to do this if you are working
with a laptop.

I personally had to change my graphics card for a Radeon XFX 6800 series with
2GB video mem, and maximized the PC RAM to have optimal performance with
Slicer on this box.

You must also note that besides display, your PC should seat a powerful CPU
to handle the background heavy calculation.

It would be wiser to buy a new PC if Slicer is important for your work.

Cheers !



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Re: RE : Re: prbms with 3DSlicer crashing

Hoppe, Anna L
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Hi,

I run 3DSlicer on Intel's i7 quad-core CPU (Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU, 860  @ 2.80GHz). Does this seem reasonable? Do you think that if I merely upgrade to either a Radeon 6xxx or 7xxx series graphics card, instead of getting a new computer, Slicer will perform better?

Thanks for all your help,
Anna
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At work, I use Slicer on a 2 core Athlon II XP CPU at 2.7 GHz and on a 6 core
Athlon Phenom II CPU at 3.3 GHz. The performance gain is quite big.

Check your CPU characteristics. Tasks like segmentation can be CPU intensive.
CPU power will never be enough, though we are all budget limited in some way.


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Re: RE : Re: prbms with 3DSlicer crashing

Hoppe, Anna L
Hi,

I run 3D Slicer on a 64-bit linux machine with Intel's i7 quad-core CPU (Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU, 860  @ 2.80GHz). I have had a lot of trouble with Slicer being sluggish and crashing. Through this mailing list I was told that if I upgrade to either a Radeon 6xxx or 7xxx series graphics card Slicer will perform better. However, after looking into these graphics cards it seems that they all require power supplies greater than 260 watt. I only have a 260 watt power supply available. Does anyone know of a graphics card that will work better than my current card which is the Radeon HD 4650? Has anyone encountered a similar problem as this?

Thanks for all the help. It is appreciated.
Anna
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Hi,

I run 3DSlicer on Intel's i7 quad-core CPU (Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU, 860  @ 2.80GHz). Does this seem reasonable? Do you think that if I merely upgrade to either a Radeon 6xxx or 7xxx series graphics card, instead of getting a new computer, Slicer will perform better?

Thanks for all your help,
Anna
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At work, I use Slicer on a 2 core Athlon II XP CPU at 2.7 GHz and on a 6 core
Athlon Phenom II CPU at 3.3 GHz. The performance gain is quite big.

Check your CPU characteristics. Tasks like segmentation can be CPU intensive.
CPU power will never be enough, though we are all budget limited in some way.


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